Vanast foorumist: Kuuletu Jumalale ja Sõnumitoojale!

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Posted: 26 Jul 2007 10:37 am Post subject: Kuuletu Jumalale ja Sonumitoojale!

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Kuuletu Jumalale ja Sonumitoojale

Autor: Layth Al-Shaiban (e-mail: laytth@hotmail.com)

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Vastuseks Sunni ja Shia sektlastele, kellega tuleb juttu "islamist", tuleb vaga tihti jutuks just seesama teema: "kuuletu Jumalale ja kuuletu sonumitoojale"

Selal kui sektid vastumeelselt tunnistavad, et Koraan on detailideni yksikasjalik ja loplik, nagu Jumal ytleb,et see on(vt 6:114-115, 11:1, 16:89),otsivad nad kiiresti palju varsse Koraanist, mis raagivad "Jumalale ja sonumitoojale kuuletumisest" ja vaidavad et need varsid raagivad selgelt kahest informatsiooniallikast, mida tuleb jargida: "Kuuletu Jumalale" tahistab nende vaidete kohaselt Koraani ja "Kuuletu sonumitoojale" aga haditheid.

“O you who believe, obey God and His messenger, and do not turn away from him while you have heard.” (8:20)

“Say: ‘Obey God and the messenger.’ But if they turn away, then God does not like the rejecters.” (3:32)

“And obey God and obey the messenger, and be aware. If you turn away then know that it is the duty of the messenger to deliver the clarity.” (5:92)

“And obey God and His messenger, and do not dispute else you will fail and your momentum will depart, and be patient. God is with the patient ones.” (8:46)

“Say: “Obey God, and obey the messenger.” But if they turn away, then he is only responsible for his obligation, and you are responsible for your obligations. And if you obey him, you will be guided. The messenger is only required to deliver clearly.” (24:54)

“O you who believe, obey God, and obey the messenger. And do not render your work in vain.” (47:33)

“Obey God and obey the messenger. And if you turn away, then it is only required of Our messenger to deliver clearly.” (64:12)

Kui esmapilgul paistavad need sektlaste argumendid monevorra veenvad, et kui JUmal oleks moelnud ainult Koraani jargimist, oleks Ta oelnud ainult "Kuuletu Jumalale" ja sellest oleks piisanud. Siiski lisades sellele "ja kuuletu sonumitoojale", paistab nende argumendil olevat teataval maaral toetust.

Varsis 4:59 naeme juhtu kus sektlased tunnevad end oma vaidetes veel kindlamini, kus on usklikel kastud "kuuletuda Jumalale" ja "kuuletuda sonumitoojale" ja kuuletuda "neile, kel on mojuvoimu/kes on asjatundjad" (paistab lausa 3 erinevat allikat). Siiski, kui nad vaidlevad mingis osas, siis tuleb ignoreerida "asjatundjate" arvamust ja lihtsalt poorduda tagasi Jumala ja Tema sonumitooja poole.

“O you who believe, obey God and obey the messenger, and those in authority amongst you. But if you dispute in any matter, then you shall refer it to God and His messenger if you believe in God and the Last Day. That is better and more suitable for knowing.” (4:59)

See, mida oleme siiani esitlenud, on sektlaste loogika, oigustamaks nende Pandora sarve, kus asuvad definitsioonid selle kohta "mida" sonumitooja meile andis ja algab varandusejaht sadadele tuhandetele kylajuttudele, mis prohvetile omistatud, kus ta midagi olevat oelnud voi teinud.

Kas Koraan on taielik voi ei?

“Shall I seek other than God as a judge when He has sent down to you this Scripture fully detailed?” Those to whom We have given the Scripture know it is sent down from your Lord with truth; so do not be of those who have doubt.” (6:114)
“And the word of your Lord has been completed with truth and justice; there is no changing His words. He is the Hearer, the Knower.” (6:115)
See on kysimus, mis vaaatab vastu neile, kes usuvad ainutl Koraani autoriteeti. Kuidas saab Koraan vaita et see on taielik ja detailne kui see viitab allikale, mis asub Koraanist valjaspool?

Kuuletu Jumalale ja kuuletu sonumitoojale?

Kogu selle kysimuse vastus leidub aga Koraanis eneses:

“Whoever obeys the messenger has obeyed God; and whoever turns away, We have not sent you as a guardian over them. “ (4:80)

Kesiganes kuuletub sonumitoojale, on kuuletunud Jumalale ja kes poordub eemale, siis Me pole sind saatnud nende yle valvama.

Kui see varss voib tulla shokina sektlastele, on see aga loomulikuks vastuseks Koraani opilastele, kes teavad ja usuvad et Jumalasoan on detailne ja taielik.Meile raagitakse taiesti kindlates ja tapsetes terminites, et kesiganes on "kuuletunud sonumitoojale", vastab automaatselt kriteeriumile et ta on "kuuletunud Jumalale". St need kaks kasku on yks ja seesama.

Kui sektlased motleksid sellele, siis jouaksid nad samale jarelgusele, sest Koraan ei ilmunud meile ju otse Jumalast, vaid see sai kirja pandud labi Tema ilmutuse Tema sonumitoojale (St. sonumitooja, Jumal ja Koraan on lahutamatud)
Ei ole vaja otsida Koraanivaliseid tekste, ei mingeid haditheid. Ainult sonad, mida sonumitooja meieni toi ajal, mil Jumal teda inspireeris.

Mida siis sonumitooja meieni toi?

Nyyd kui oleme oma otsingu kitsendanud vaid yhe elemendini, mis toodi meieni labi molema: Jumala ja Tema sonumitooja.
Kas see element on Koraan?
Voi on see element Hadithid?


Jallegi vaatame Jumala ja Tema sonumitoojate sonu ,et vastust leida:


“Say: “Which is the greatest testimony?” Say: “God is witness between me and you, and He has inspired to me this Qur’an that I may warn you with it and whomever it reaches, that you bear witness that along with God are other gods!” Say: “I do not bear witness!” Say: “He is only One god, and I am innocent of what you set up!” (6:19)

“And when Our clear revelations are recited to them, those who do not wish to meet Us said: “Bring a Qur’an other than this, or change it!” Say: “It is not for me to change it of my own accord, I merely follow what is inspired to me. I fear, if I disobey my Lord, the retribution of a great day!” (10:15)

Kas saab enam selgemini valjenduda? Sonumitooja toi meieni Koraani ja ainult Koraani

Ja las tuletame meelde ka toelised Jumala kasud Tema sonumitoojale kuuletumise kohta, mida sonumitooja ise meile ytles ja arge olge need, kellest sonumitooja ara poordub viimselpaeval ja kelle kohta ta on oelnud:

“And the messenger said: ‘My Lord, my people have deserted this Qur’an.’” (25:30)