VF: Islamis pole polügaamia lubatud!

fennek



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Posted: 06 Jan 2008 07:39 pm Post subject: Islamis pole polygaamia lubatud!

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vaga hasti kirjutatud artikkel, milles argumendid Koraanist endast polygaamia (mitme naisega abiellumise) vastu.
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fennek



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Posted: 06 Jan 2008 08:05 pm Post subject:

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Kiiresti teen kokkuvotte sellest tekstist ka:
Rule #1
Verse 24:32: Marrying off the unmarried

“Marry off those who are single among you and those of your male and female servants who are righteous. If they are poor, God will enrich them of his grace, for God is bounteous and all-knowing.”

Rule #1: In a society, God is commanding us to only marry off the unmarried.

Rule#2
Verse (4:20) Taking one wife in place of another:

If you wish to marry another wife, in place of your present wife, and you had given any of them a great deal, you shall not take back anything you had given her. Would you take it fraudulently, maliciously, and sinfully?

Rule #2: A divorce must take place before a man marries another wife.

When a married “Muslim” marries a second wife, he would have broken the Quranic Rule#1 because he is already married and he also would have broken Rule#2 because he did not take a wife instead of another (divorce then marriage).

Valestimoistetud ja tolgitud varss:

And if you fear you can’t do justice to the orphans, then: “Marry off the women (orphans) who have agreed with you
by two, by three and by four!”
But if you fear that you will be unfair then:
“(Marry off) by one or what your right hand possessed!”
This is better than getting into hardship.

Now let us assume that the verse is about “Marrying” not “Marrying off” and see if it could also make perfect sense.

And if you fear you can’t do justice to the orphans, then:
“Marry the women (orphans) who have agreed with you
by two, by three and by four!”
But if you fear that you will be unfair then:
“(Marry) by one or what your right hand possessed!”
This is better than getting into hardship.

It only makes perfect sense if you ignore the first clause (And if you fear you can’t do justice to the orphans, then:). The first clause seems to be totally out of place, that’s why I put it separate.

And if you fear you can’t do justice to the orphans, then: “Marry the women (orphans) who have agreed with you”…... This is better than getting into hardship.

Does marrying the orphans in your care resolve your financial problems and do justice to the orphans?

For most people, this would have been enough evidence to reject “Marry” option in verse 4:3 because this creates contradiction in God’s word.

“Ujurahuna” meaning “their dowers” is consistently and exclusively used in the Quran for what a man gives a woman as a marriage portion in a normal marriage. This textual consistency leave one in no doubt that “Sadduqatihina” in verse 4:4 does not carry the meaning “their dowers”. It has been taken to mean that because of misunderstanding of verses 4:3 and 4:4.

Lisaks raagivad varsid 4:7-13 p'randusest:

God is never Forgetful. In the above inheritance verses, there no mention that if a man has two wives/spouses or more, they share a quarter or any other portion. The portion of the daughters if there are two or more (and no sons) is two-thirds (4:11) –after legacies or debts-. When there is no ascendants or descendants, the brothers and sisters share in a third if they are more than two –after legacies or debts-. If there are no children, the spouses inherit the quarter of the husbands’ inheritance–after legacies or debts- (4:12). Verse 4:12 only makes concise perfect sense when there is no polygamy, otherwise if a man has 4 wives, it is not clear if each wife gets a quarter or a sixteenth or any other portion –after legacies or debts- unless we rely on other sources for inheritance rules.

The war
There is no mention of “war” that tradition wants to convince us of as a justification for “polygamy” in verse 4:3 (with “marrying” meaning). These verses are equally applicable at war and at peace. The more polygamous the society is the greater is the number of widows left behind and the greater is the burden on the society. However verses 4:3-4 are not about the widows of war, they are uniquely about orphaned women.
Verse


(4:128) is about a woman fearing aversion and desertion from her husband.
Verse (4:130) is about a husband and wife parting from each other.

Verse (4:129) is not about polygamy but is about divorce and women’ rights. It is a statement of fact that in divorce, it is not possible for all divorcing men to be fair in settlements with all divorcing women, but even so women should not be left “hanging” without a settlement of some sort. In brief the women here are not one man’s wives.


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